How Do I Begin Investing When There’s NO Money Circulation?


A couple of years in the past, everybody was questioning how one can begin investing in actual property, however now the query has switched to “Is it too late?” When you’re caught on the sidelines however need to get into the true property investing sport, this Seeing Greene is for you.

The person of the folks is again for an additional Seeing Greene-style present! This time, David is answering questions from new buyers, skilled buyers, and everybody in between. First, we’ll hear from an investor who’s questioning about the worth of a low mortgage price, particularly when shopping for a brand new construct. Is a decrease price price the next worth? Then, David tells you how one can convert your own home fairness into a brand new funding property and what you MUST know earlier than stepping into industrial actual property. A school scholar desires to know how one can use his $20K financial savings, and a “late starter” searches for money circulation in a market that’s dry as a desert!

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David:
That is the BiggerPockets Podcast present 882. What’s occurring everybody? Guess what? We acquired a inexperienced mild particular for you. When you haven’t seen one in all these reveals earlier than you’re in for a deal with. Right now we now have a Seeing Greene present the place I take questions from you, our listener base, and I reply them for everyone else to listen to so we will all construct effectively collectively. Right now’s present is superior. What to do with $20,000 in the event you’re in faculty and seeking to begin investing? get began later in life in a market the place discovering money circulation is more durable than ever? And extra in immediately’s Seeing Greene.
And in the event you’re new to the present I’m David Greene. I’m a former legislation enforcement officer who saved up a bunch of cash working additional time and dealing in eating places, purchased some rental properties, then purchased a bunch extra, discovered how one can use the Burr methodology, purchased out of state, constructed a fairly large portfolio, acquired an actual property license, acquired a brokers license, run actual property groups, run mortgage corporations. I’ve mainly been immersed in all issues actual property. And my guess is it’s a must to and that’s why you’re right here. In these reveals, I take my expertise in actual property and I share it answering the questions that folks have the place they’re caught of their journey or they need to speed up their success. Our first query comes from Tomi, a frequent query asker, who desires to find out about valuing a decrease mortgage price when buying a property topic to.

Tomi:
Hey, David, that is Tomi in San Antonio. I used to be questioning, when do you suppose it’s an excellent time to go together with the builder’s contract to be able to get their incentives on a brand new construct contemplating our excessive rate of interest atmosphere? I might love your data. Thanks once more for all of the information. Following you has been superior. Take care.

David:
And thanks, Tomi. What an incredible query. And thanks for at all times asking such good questions on Seeing Greene, we’ve had you on earlier than, you’re at all times mentioning such good factors. And if you want your nice query answered on Seeing Greene head over to biggerpockets.com/david the place you may submit it there. And in the event you like these reveals and also you’re excited to listen to what we’re stepping into immediately, please go away us a touch upon YouTube and tell us what you concentrate on Seeing Greene.
All proper. So Tomi your query was, how a lot worth ought to I ascribe to a decrease rate of interest? And I like the best way you’re asking that as a result of I can see what your thoughts’s doing. You’re making an attempt to transpose the deal phrases into one thing that matches on a spreadsheet. Your thoughts is searching for some readability right here. You’re like all proper, usually a home is price $500,000, and also you’re trying on the rate of interest as one of many elements that makes it price a hypothetical $500,000.
So that you’re saying, effectively, if it’s price $500,000 at 7% and it’s … If it goes down to five% it must be price extra since you’d theoretically be getting extra cash circulation. The issue is actual property values should not as straightforward to foretell as what we wish them to be. I imply, if we’re getting sincere right here, the entire concept of what a home is price is definitely subjective. Nobody likes subjectivity. So we’ve created this concept of value determinations or other ways to worth actual property like cap charges and NOI for industrial property as a result of we need to have some baseline understanding of what a property is price, however you need to know what it’s actually price, what any individual’s keen to pay for it. And that’s why advertising and marketing is so prevalent inside the world of actual property as a result of if you can also make any individual need one thing they may pay extra for it.
Now, we nonetheless do use a comparable gross sales method as a result of banks are going to be lending on properties and so they need to just be sure you’re not shopping for it for considerably greater than they might promote it to any individual else. That means, they need to ensure you don’t worth it considerably greater than what the remainder of the market may. Now right here’s the dangerous information. You may’t say, “Nicely, I’d pay this a lot cash extra for a decrease rate of interest.” However what you are able to do is evaluate the property with the decrease rate of interest that you could possibly get in a topic to deal to the opposite properties which can be obtainable for you and the costs they’re at. That’s a significantly better method of taking a look at it, okay? I’ve this feature, choice A, after which I’ve all these choices over right here available on the market, choices B, C, D, and E.
Does that take care of the decrease rate of interest money circulation considerably greater than the offers which have the upper charges? Is it in a market the place you suppose that the worth goes to go up considerably? So is the decrease price going to help you maintain it longer in order that will probably be price extra later? Or is it a market the place values should not going to be going up a lot, you’re not going to get a lot appreciation there? So getting the decrease price goes to get you some extra cash circulation to start with however that’s all you’re ever going to get. These are the questions you’re going to must ask Tomi. Sadly, you’re not going to have the ability to say, for each 1% it goes down I add 5% to the acquisition worth of what I’m keen to pay for the home.
Right here’s my two cents. I don’t suppose it’s best to pay extra for a home since you’re getting a decrease rate of interest, I feel that that’s a advertising and marketing tactic that folks use. They go in there and so they pay greater than what they might promote the home to any individual else for and so they say, “Nicely, it was price it as a result of I acquired this decrease price,” and so they have a look at it like they’re shopping for the speed. The issue is you may’t eliminate the home if one thing goes incorrect. You’re not going to have the ability to promote it to another person otherwise you’re going to lose cash. It’s additionally a really shortsighted method that claims, “I’m going to pay X amount of cash for money circulation.” So if I’m getting a decrease price I’m shopping for money circulation. The issue is the mortgage price impacts one of many bills of your own home which might be your principal and your curiosity.
And although it looks as if the largest expense as a result of it’s probably the most constant, it’s actually not. The killers of actual property are not often ever going to be the rate of interest, they’re going to be the upkeep, the capital expenditures, the emptiness, the best way that you just function the property. One tenant that trashes your property and leaves, and you retain a $2,000 deposit however you bought to spend $6,500 to repaint, do new flooring, repair the drywall, eliminate no matter smells they brought about, repair all of the landscaping, eliminate all of the trash they left there, it might be the equal of 15 years of the curiosity that you just suppose you save getting the higher rate of interest. So let’s all keep away from stepping into the starry-eyed price discuss and pondering that that’s the one expense you’re going to have. These are the ways in which we have to be analyzing actual property offers and, sadly, it doesn’t all match on a spreadsheet.
Nonetheless, I like the best way you’re pondering, Tomi. Your mind is working like an buyers is, you’re on the proper journey. Hold asking questions like that and finally, the algorithm in your thoughts will develop itself to the place you’ll know if it’s an excellent deal or not. All proper, we’re going to take a fast minute to listen to a phrase from immediately’s present sponsors. However after that, we’re going to be getting right into a query that could be very near one thing that I skilled myself. They’ve acquired a property with $265,000 of fairness in Jacksonville, Florida, the place I had a reasonably sizable portfolio at one level, and so they need to know what to do. So stick round as a result of we’re going to be again after this quick break the place we’re going to hear from somebody who has a portfolio just like mine.
And welcome again all people, I missed you. I’ve been ready this complete time so that you can lastly hearken to that advert and I’m so glad that you just’re again right here. Our subsequent query comes from Summer time Wheatley in Florida. Wait, no, I acquired that incorrect, it’s really Summer time Berkeley. I don’t know what Summer time Wheatley’s as much as. If anyone else is aware of if she ever made it to the dance with Napoleon let me know within the feedback how we expect that that went. All proper. Summer time says, “I stay close to Jacksonville. I’ve one owner-occupied-single-family residence that I’d prefer to promote with about $265,000 in fairness. I need to deploy that fairness into an even bigger income-producing property. What are your ideas, David? Would I’ve any points getting a industrial mortgage because it’s normally based mostly on the working earnings and my credit score is as excessive as credit score may be? Plus I’ve masses of cash reserves in addition to expertise on this enterprise?”
Nicely, first off, Summer time, congratulations on being the preferred woman in Napoleon’s highschool. And congratulations on having all this money saved up and a variety of fairness in your property. It is a nice drawback to have and I’m pleased that can assist you right here. Summer time additionally mentions that she desires to maneuver from a family-friendly space the place she lives now to extra of a seaside nightlife space as she’s a single individual and desires to improve her residing scenario. And that she wish to pay money for Airbnb-type property or a industrial property, however can also be keen to get a mortgage if that might make extra sense.
All proper, Summer time, so right here’s what I might do if I used to be you. First off, I’d cut up up the purpose of discovering a industrial property that I may function like a resort or an Airbnb, that you just requested about with the lending, and my purpose of transferring to an space that I need to stay. It’s very tough once you attempt to mix or stack targets collectively. For example, in the event you say, “I need to purchase a property in a excessive appreciating space that has a ton of fairness in it, and I need to purchase it beneath market worth, and I need it to be move-in prepared, and I need it to money circulation actually, actually excessive, and I need it to have a cute kitchen” you’re simply going to be trying endlessly, you’re not going to search out that.
Now, in the event you stated, “I need to purchase a property that has a variety of fairness and I should buy it beneath market worth cease,” you may have the ability to discover a kind of. Or I need to discover a property that has a cute kitchen that I wish to stay in, you may have the ability to discover a kind of. Or I need to discover a money circulation property. However you’re most likely not going to search out all of them in the identical deal. You’re higher off to separate these various things and say, “I need to discover a property with a variety of fairness to flip, then I need to put these income right into a property that money flows. After which I need to use the money circulation to assist complement the mortgage of a home that I need to stay in.” You see what I’m saying? Whenever you attempt to stack every part into the identical deal you find yourself simply staying home single endlessly. However once you’re keen to say, “Okay, I’m searching for various things and totally different alternatives,” and then you definately mix all of them into one portfolio, you’re more likely to achieve success.
So let’s discuss what you are able to do on this case to search out an space that you just need to stay in however it doesn’t break the financial institution. It’s best to home hack. It’s best to search for a property in an space that you just need to stay the place different folks additionally need to stay. And it’s best to search for a particular ground plan that might work so that you can both lease the rooms out to different folks … Perhaps there’s a master suite on one aspect of the home that you could keep in, after which there’s different bedrooms on a special ground or a special story the place different folks may keep in. Perhaps you discover a home with an ADU that you just stay in. Or, you reside in the primary home and also you lease out that ADU on Airbnb. Loads of the Airbnb restrictions in areas don’t apply to major residences so you will get round a few of that purple tape in the event you take that highway.
So now we’ve solved your first drawback. You’re residing in an space that you just need to stay and the price of it’s being supplemented by rental earnings. That takes a variety of stress off of you and now you may give attention to one thing that you could possibly discover which might be a cash-flowing industrial property. There’s most likely going to be extra alternatives on this house than nearly anyplace else as a result of the industrial markets have been trashed. Rates of interest skyrocketing, balloon funds which can be going to be due on industrial properties. There’s been loads, loads, lot of fluxx inside that market. And there’s been lots of people which have misplaced some huge cash after they had been working the property effectively however their observe got here due or their buyers needed to be paid off. And on the time they wanted to refinance or promote, issues didn’t work out.
It’s like musical chairs. Whenever you’re strolling across the chairs … When you’re in entrance of a chair when the music stops you’re good. That’s like having favorable rates of interest when your observe comes due. However in the event you occur to catch the dangerous luck of not being by a chair when the music stops, that might be charges being too excessive to refinance or promote, you’re caught. Even if you’re enjoying the sport the proper method generally issues work in opposition to you once you’re in industrial properties. So I like this as a possibility for you.
Now, in the case of getting the mortgage you’re precisely proper, you’re usually going to get authorized based mostly off of slightly little bit of your credit score rating however it’s going to extra be the online working earnings of the property which implies the lender’s going to need to know effectively, how a lot cash does the property generate? That is usually discovered by taking a look at all of the leases which can be in place and including them up and that’s your earnings, after which taking a look at all of the bills which can be going to be in place.
Now once you’re going to get financing for a industrial property, like what you talked about, it’s normally slightly bit trickier than in the event you’re making an attempt to get it for a residential property as a result of not as many individuals supply them. So I’m a mortgage dealer. You possibly can come to me and I might say, “Hey, you need to purchase a home? Let’s have a look at all these totally different lenders we now have and discover the one with the most effective price, the most effective phrases, and the most effective service.”
However with industrial properties, you are able to do that it’s simply method more durable. Loads of these loans are accomplished straight that means you go to this particular financial institution and so they let you know what they’re keen to supply. And it may be difficult. You’ve acquired totally different balloon funds, you’ve acquired recourse and non-recourse loans, you’ve acquired rates of interest. Loads of these rates of interest are adjustable. The minute it turns into adjustable there’s a variety of totally different ways in which they’ll modify. It’s not the identical as getting a 30-year fastened price mortgage like in residential actual property the place you don’t must be an knowledgeable. You do must be an knowledgeable in the event you’re going to be stepping into industrial financing, or it’s a must to know an knowledgeable that may enable you to by this.
So whereas the gist of it’s yeah, they’re going to take a look at the earnings that the property makes and underwrite it based mostly off of that, and your credit score can be concerned. If it’s a recourse mortgage, it’s very straightforward to not perceive the mortgage paperwork that the financial institution is arising with and so they’re not written to guard you. I simply need everybody to listen to this. Whenever you’re shopping for a home that’s Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac backed, there are tons of protections constructed into that as a result of these are insured by the federal authorities and so they need to take care of their tax-paying residents. However that’s not the case with these industrial loans that aren’t insured and also you don’t have protections. And plenty of of them have tiny little provisions that you’d by no means see coming the place you could possibly technically be in default and so they can foreclose on you even in the event you didn’t notice you probably did something incorrect.
I’m mainly getting on the level that I’d like to see you are taking the fairness that you just’ve acquired and get deeper into investing. However I don’t need you to wander into that territory pondering that industrial works the identical as residential, that the financing works the identical, or that you just’re going to mix your dream of residing in an space with nice nightlife, and a beautiful location, and nice climate with money flowing alternative. Perhaps 100 years in the past, perhaps 50 years in the past when no person actually knew how actual property labored, and you could possibly go in there and you could possibly purchase a industrial property and it’d most likely have some residential spot above the place you could possibly stay in the identical constructing that you just simply purchased. I don’t see very many alternatives on the market like that now, and those which can be typically being chased down by massive conglomerations, firms, fairness funds. There’s a variety of demand to search out these sorts of properties so know who you’re going to be competing with.
All proper. Simply to sum that up for you there, Summer time. Keep in mind, commercials very totally different than residential. The financing could be very totally different. Be sure you have an skilled individual learn by the mortgage paperwork and also you perceive all of the offers in the event you’re going to get into the industrial property. And don’t attempt to mix your entire targets in the identical property, cut up them up into totally different properties and put all of them right into a portfolio, what I name portfolio structure, and architect your dream life.
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All proper. I admire and love the entire engagement that y’all are giving us within the feedback. Let me know what you concentrate on immediately’s present and the recommendation that I’ve given to date, in addition to what you’d like to listen to on a Future Seeing Greene present in order that we will seize that and throw it into our manufacturing course of. When you’d prefer to be featured on the present you are able to do so by heading to biggerpockets.com/david and submitting your video query. All proper. We’re going to take a fast break after which we’re going to be again with a query about what to do with 20K and what to do as an investor caught in your 50s. All proper. Our subsequent query comes from William Warshaw.

William:
Hey, David, my identify is William Warshaw, I’m from Los Angeles, California. I’m 19 years outdated and I’m in my dorm room so bear with me. I’ve 20 grand saved up and I simply merely need assistance taking motion in LA, Southern California. 20 grand’s not going to get you a lot. It’s going to be laborious even with an FHA mortgage. Ought to I am going lengthy distance right here? It’s, clearly, very scary going lengthy distance. I’m midway by your ebook. Or ought to I do one thing like Airbnb arbitrage? I understand how you guys really feel about that however I really feel like I may construct my capital although the short-term side is much more demanding as a school scholar. What do you guys suppose I ought to do right here? Give me choices. Let me know what you’d do in my scenario. Massive fan of the podcast. Thanks.

David:
All proper. Thanks, William, that’s nice, man. When you guys weren’t watching this on YouTube try to be. William seems to be like a mix of Justin Bieber and Shawn Mendez acquired collectively and turned their hats backward. When you ever needed to see the personification of Southern California take a look at Previous William right here. All proper, William, right here’s the very first thing I need to say. Congrats on saving up 20 grand. Very first thing I need you to do, don’t lose it. Don’t go spending it on something silly. Don’t go invested into cryptocurrencies that you just don’t perceive. Don’t go purchase an NFT, and don’t go begin some on-line buying and selling company or one thing that you just suppose goes to make you a bunch of cash. Second, congratulations on going to varsity and never simply placing your entire efforts into changing into a web based influencer, however I must know slightly bit extra about what you’re learning in faculty so I can provide you some recommendation on if I feel that that’s a good suggestion or not.
Third, you’ve acquired 20 grand, why can’t you get extra my man? You’re doing good. Once I graduated faculty, and I’m not making an attempt to match me to you I’m simply saying it’s attainable, I graduated with my college paid off, no scholar debt, my automotive paid for in money, and over $100,000 within the financial institution. I did that by working in eating places and simply staying late each single evening. Perfecting my craft of being a waiter working as laborious as I presumably may and saving all my cash. You’re at school, you’re going to have to complete college. Do you need to end college with 20 grand or do you need to end college with 50 grand? Do you need to end college with 20 grand or do you need to end college with 100,000 grand? What are you doing for work proper now that you could enhance?
Keep in mind, wealth constructing isn’t just about shopping for actual property although that’s, clearly, an necessary part to it. It’s additionally about saving your cash and making extra money. William, I’d like to see you’ve got the purpose of shopping for a home, your first home hack, that you could possibly lease to different folks with as many bedrooms as you could possibly get, perhaps even bunk beds in order that your mates might be paying you lease, and staying on this property or renting out to different faculty college students that don’t need to stay within the dorms, and I need you to make that the carrot that you just pursue.
If you wish to be a house owner, and also you need to purchase your first home, I need to see you working extra hours at an excellent job. When you’re working at some pizza joint, or in the event you’re doing DoorDash, there’s nothing incorrect with it however there’s additionally nothing proper with it. Discover a job that challenges you. Discover a job that each day it’s a must to go to work and really pray earlier than you go in there, I hope I don’t make any errors as a result of it’s that tough. It’s excellent for a younger man to be able the place you’re doing one thing difficult, and tough, and having to sharpen your sword of the talents that you just’re offering in that workspace and pushing your self. Too many individuals suppose that in the event you’re a younger child in faculty you’re not able to something however placing pepperoni on a pizza. It’s not true. Once more, there’s nothing incorrect if that’s what you’re doing, but when your targets are to be a millionaire by actual property there’s additionally nothing proper with it. So push your self, get a greater job.
Now, the purpose must be once you get out of school you need to purchase a home however the cash isn’t going to be your solely drawback, the financing goes to be an issue too. You’re going to have to indicate a debt-to-income ratio {that a} lender goes to be snug providing you with a mortgage to. You’re going to have to indicate a debt-to-income ratio that’s going to fulfill a lender’s necessities which implies you’re going to must hold your debt low, you’re going to have to make more cash. You see how earning money simply retains working its method into this equation of actual property investing. We discuss loads about discovering offers, buying offers, and although that could be a method to earn money it’s a lot more durable. So put some focus in the direction of your profession, what you are able to do to carry worth to {the marketplace}, and how one can construct your abilities.
After which within the meantime, begin analyzing home hacks. Run three-bedroom properties, four-bedroom properties, five-bedroom properties, run duplexes, run triplexes. Discover an agent that’s going to work with you, and have them ship you offers to take a look at, and run the numbers of what the bills could be, and what the earnings could be and search for patterns. What you’re searching for is a sample that five-bedroom properties money circulation however you realize you want not less than three bedrooms, however you realize want not less than three loos, you need to be sure that there’s loads of parking. You need to get to the purpose that you realize lease’s too low on this aspect of city to make it work however over right here it may work. That method once you graduate, and also you get the job, and also you’re pre-approved to purchase a home you’ve already acquired the knowledge that you just’re going to want to search out the right one to begin with.
Now, so far as how a lot cash you need to have saved once you get out of school right here’s what I might let you know. Have a look at what the typical homes are going to value that might work for a home hack, let’s say it’s $800,000. Assume you’re going to must put 5% down on a traditional mortgage to get that home, that’s 40 grand. You’re going to want $10,000 for closing prices, and one other 5 to $10,000 to enhance the property. That’s going to place you proper round 55 to $60,000. Now, you’re additionally going to want some cash within the financial institution for reserves so add one other 15 to twenty to that. And ideally, you need to be graduating faculty with 75 to $80,000 earlier than you concentrate on shopping for your first property.
With that cash, you need to have the ability to make investments it in one thing that will get you a return however my recommendation to you is keep away from danger. It’s extra necessary that you just hold it than that you just develop it, okay? So go end up a certificates of deposit in a financial institution, I feel I noticed one for round 5% the opposite day, put it in there, acquire your 5%, it makes it more durable so that you can take the cash out and spend it on one thing dumb, and simply hold placing the cash that you just make into that account to earn you some cash till you graduate, you’re prepared to purchase the home.
All proper. And our final query of the present comes from Cleven in Las Vegas. “Hello, David, we’ve tried to search out rental properties for a yr however can not determine how one can get constructive money circulation based mostly on the present mortgage charges. We’re in our mid-50s and we moved to Vegas in 2022 after promoting our home in New York the place we capitalized on some positive aspects. Nonetheless, each my spouse and my jobs grew to become insecure lately. I don’t know if we must always cease trying till the market will get extra steady, and so do our jobs, or we must always proceed trying earlier than the markets get loopy once more. Thanks.” Oh boy, Cleven, it is a drawback that most individuals are having proper now so first off don’t really feel dangerous.
Largely, money circulation did go away when the mortgage charges went up. The excellent news was that homes weren’t promoting for as a lot over asking costs as they was however there’s at all times going to be a pick-your-poison factor to actual property investing. We complained about the truth that you needed to overbid on these properties, although they money flowed, now we complain concerning the truth they don’t money circulation. If one thing modifications we’re going to be complaining about that. Properties will money circulation however underneath totally different situations, you’re going to must put extra money down. So in the event you’re placing extra capital into the deal you’re going to observe your ROI go down although your money circulation goes to go up.
And my two cents on that is that if it’s a must to stick much more capital right into a deal to make it money circulation in order that it’s secure, you want to have considerably extra upside which implies you want to be investing in an space that’s prone to get extra appreciation, or getting a deal that you just purchased for lower than what it’s price by a major quantity. So it’s one factor to consider there. You may nonetheless get money circulation however you’re going to must put down greater than 20%. So in the event you’re seeking to put money into Vegas, my recommendation could be to search out the neighborhoods or the areas that you just suppose are going to understand greater than their competitors. I name this market appreciation fairness. It’s the concept that not all markets admire on the similar stage.
The opposite factor that you could possibly do is search for a special major residence for you and your spouse that has a component of it that might be rented out. Are you able to discover a property that’s acquired a visitor home, that’s acquired a basement that you just guys can stay in and lease out the remainder of it? I do know that’s not supreme, I do know it’s not what you need to do. But when money circulation actually is inconceivable to search out, the opposite method that you could construct wealth is by saving in your bills.
Are you able to remove your mortgage or minimize it down by a major quantity and save the distinction? Keep in mind, $2,000 a month saved off of your mortgage is identical as $2,000 a month in money circulation. It’s really higher as a result of money circulation is taxed whereas financial savings should not. It’s very straightforward as buyers to neglect that saving cash is simply as highly effective as earning money. And you actually don’t have to be tremendous targeted on money circulation till you’ve already diminished your price range by as a lot as you presumably can. So these are two issues that you could work on whereas the market is presently on this stalemate.
Now, I simply need to remind you, if we do get decrease charges and also you suppose you’re getting money circulation once more you’re going to must be prepared to leap in quick as a result of all the opposite buyers are going to appreciate the identical factor. And like locust, they’re all going to converge on these markets and bid the costs as much as the place guess what? They now not money circulation. Simple money circulation is a factor of the previous. I don’t suppose we’re going to see it once more perhaps ever. Money circulation is now going to be one thing that it’s a must to work actually laborious to search out or one thing that it’s a must to work actually laborious to create, or one thing that it’s a must to wait to materialize by itself by rising rents. However do not forget that there are different methods that you could earn money by actual property so give attention to these.
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